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[20:53:02]  ***  Users on #techshow: @tgvf5 Paladin dann Allan linc Patrick Rod Mellofone
[20:53:35]  <Mellofone> yello :)
[20:53:40]  <Patrick> Dan, just read your post from the mailing list regarding video, what kind of camera did you get?
[20:53:52]  <Rod> Hi, Mell!
[20:54:49]  <dann> canon zr70, it's works though.
[20:55:18]  <dann> Paladin, I thought the class was not in D&D but in advanced D&D.
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[20:55:44]  <linc> wow lots of peeps here tonight!
[20:55:46]  <Patrick> I have the Canon ZR60, cool!
[20:56:07]  <dann> you listening too linc?
[20:56:24]  <dann> or just on the irc
[20:56:25]  <linc> you betcha dann
[20:56:32]  <linc> I am listening and on irc
[20:56:40]  <dann> hugs and kisses to you, and everyone else.  I do not want to leave them out.
[20:56:41]  <linc> too bad I couldn't stream from here
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[21:01:57]  <Patrick> I'm planning on selling my laptop and I'm in the process of cleaning it up.
[21:02:13]  <linc> what kinda laptop and how much $$?
[21:02:13]  <Rodzilla> oooohh.. whatcha' selling?
[21:02:40]  <Mellofone> Tandy 1000
[21:02:49]  <linc> Apple IIC
[21:02:58]  <Patrick> My Dell Inspiron 7500, 500 mhz, 256 meg memory
[21:03:00]  <Rodzilla> YEAH .. PROMO TIME!!
[21:03:06]  <dann> a bunch of crap is what he is selling and a side of bullshit to go with it
[21:03:14]  <Rodzilla> ouch
[21:03:23]  <dann> sorry, Linc has some really cool stuff
[21:03:32]  <Patrick> At least it's a warm pile of crap!!
[21:03:33]  <linc> That's not me really - just a reasonable faximile
[21:03:48]  <linc> facsimile <sp>?
[21:03:53]  <Rodzilla> eeewww... and since it's cold out it would be steamy
[21:03:59]  <dann> Allan is my little lapdog tonight.
[21:04:16]  <dann> well, to quote him, he is my gopher
[21:04:27]  <Allan> gopher is more like it.
[21:04:34]  <linc> he does kinda look like a gopher..  Sort of :-)
[21:04:37]  <dann> Promo promo promo, nap, promo
[21:04:43]  <linc> hahah
[21:05:03]  <dann> who wants to hear the promo a second time?
[21:05:18]  <Rodzilla> YEAH!  LINUX SIG!!!!
[21:05:25]  <linc> how 'about 2 or 3?  Then they'll think I'm there tonight!
[21:05:30]  <dann> we should make it available for download so everyone can just loop it at home.
[21:05:31]  <Rodzilla> hehehehehe
[21:05:38]  <linc> :-)
[21:05:52]  <dann> it's just not a show without linc
[21:05:54]  <Patrick> I'm thinking of selling the laptop for $500 and another $50 for the linksys wireless card and wireless access pint
[21:05:54]  <dann> here we go.
[21:06:27]  <Patrick> what's the topic
[21:06:33]  <Rodzilla> OUCH
[21:06:57]  <Patrick> it's one of those nights!!
[21:07:09]  <Mellofone> heh
[21:07:10]  <Patrick> have another pint of guiness
[21:07:27]  <linc> U-Huh...  Much preparedness was accomplished in the 8 minutes before the stream started :-) hahaha
[21:07:27]  <Rodzilla> GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE
[21:07:55]  <Mellofone> heh
[21:08:04]  <Patrick> cranberry sauce, mmmmmmmh
[21:08:04]  <Allan> a whole lot of prep!
[21:08:04]  <linc> Happy Thursday :-)
[21:08:43]  <Mellofone> it's Wednesday :)
[21:09:17]  <Mellofone> ARGH
[21:09:21]  <linc> not on thanksgiv ing it isnt
[21:09:24]  <Mellofone> skipping like crazy
[21:09:34]  <Mellofone> too many people online :)
[21:09:42]  <Patrick> max headroom syndrome
[21:09:58]  <linc> I just changed from xmms to realplayer and all is well..
[21:10:12]  <Mellofone> feh! Realplayer?! :)
[21:10:27]  <Rodzilla> uh-oh
[21:11:02]  <linc> well, I coulda use mpg123 or mplayer or something but this was quick-n-easy
[21:11:16]  <Mellofone> mp3blaster! :)
[21:12:24]  <linc> AHAHHAA  XXX Allan!  Now I know what to put on my blog :-)
[21:13:11]  <linc> CLEAN?  Just means I can't show nipples :-)
[21:13:15]  <Rodzilla> well, hardee-har-har, dann
[21:13:20]  <Rodzilla> hehehehe
[21:13:32]  <Mellofone> ewwww
[21:13:43]  <Rodzilla> AoD .. WOOHOO
[21:13:44]  <Mellofone> keep your nipples to yourself :)
[21:14:09]  <linc> This is a first!  Tech show get's a caller!
[21:14:47]  <Rodzilla> hehehehee
[21:17:45]  <Mellofone> ARGH wiki
[21:17:55]  <Mellofone> someone let that die!!
[21:17:56]  <Mellofone> :)
[21:18:15]  <Paladin> So it still won't actually grab the app you want and all the packages you need to run it.
[21:18:19]  <Paladin> Debian will. :)
[21:18:25]  <Mellofone> as will gentoo
[21:18:27]  <Mellofone> :)
[21:19:16]  <Paladin> apt-get works out of the box
[21:19:30]  <linc> out of my box
[21:19:36]  <Paladin> Heheh
[21:19:39]  <linc> not out of my box
[21:19:52]  <linc> my box runs slackware
[21:20:13]  <linc> HAHAHA stick it to him Dann - "Allan, you talk for a minute :-)"
[21:20:15]  <Paladin> I'm sorry to hear that. :)
[21:20:34]  <Mellofone> heh
[21:20:36]  <Mellofone> slackware
[21:20:39]  <Mellofone> here we go
[21:20:57]  <linc> better than debian :-)
[21:21:05]  <Paladin> http://www.linuxworld.com/story/38045.htm
[21:21:05]  <linc> hahahah
[21:21:24]  <Mellofone> how is it ever better then debian?
[21:21:25]  <Patrick> I've got my camcorder hooked up but kino is not detecting it. I can control the camcorder via gscanbus
[21:21:40]  <linc> WED!
[21:22:16]  <Mellofone> dropping stream like crazy
[21:22:44]  <Paladin> Ditto. I can't stay connected.
[21:22:45]  <Patrick> Let me check out the documentation
[21:22:50]  <linc> I have decent stream here so far
[21:23:27]  <Mellofone> heheh
[21:23:57]  <linc> but I have restarted twice already though
[21:23:58]  <Mellofone> well email me and I will walk you through the debian setup :)
[21:24:04]  <Patrick> Dan, you buy my laptop with Debian already installed via knoppix
[21:26:52]  <Mellofone> fluxbox!
[21:27:43]  <linc> XFCE
[21:27:48]  <Mellofone> feh!
[21:29:17]  <Mellofone> enlight had some goofy version options
[21:29:29]  <Patrick> stream is dropping
[21:29:34]  <Mellofone> a few different revs had a lot of screwy issues
[21:29:58]  <Mellofone> we aren't bickering :)
[21:30:01]  <Mellofone> VI VI VI VI VI
[21:30:01]  <linc> Emacs - EEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWW!
[21:30:04]  <Mellofone> VI VI VI VI VI VI VI
[21:30:08]  <linc> Vi rulez
[21:30:12]  <Mellofone> vim actually :)
[21:30:14]  <Paladin> nano!
[21:30:15]  <Rodzilla> VI   WOOHOOO
[21:30:26]  <Mellofone> hahaaaahahaha nano:
[21:30:29]  <dann> ed
[21:30:39]  <dann> windows notepad
[21:30:46]  <dann> apple scripting utility
[21:30:59]  <Paladin> Heh, the music starts up and NOW I have a steady stream... wtf.
[21:31:06]  <Mellofone> heeheee
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[21:31:30]  <Paladin> Bow down! http://www.nano-editor.org/
[21:31:32]  <Mellofone> is this from a Nintendo game? :)
[21:31:43]  <Rodzilla> HAHAHAH.. I was JUST gonna say that too!
[21:31:46]  <Patrick> VI
[21:31:59]  <Rodzilla> like I'm playing one of those RPG's with pokemon
[21:32:09]  <Mellofone> heh
[21:32:13]  <Paladin> Don't we deserve more than 8-bit music? :)
[21:32:16]  <dann> quanta, because speed and resources be damned.
[21:32:25]  <Mellofone> NOT AGAIN!
[21:32:26]  <Mellofone> :)
[21:32:28]  <Paladin> up up down down left right left right B A Start
[21:32:34]  <Rodzilla> LOL
[21:32:49]  <Mellofone> contra owned
[21:33:01]  <Paladin> Worked in Lifeforce too
[21:33:25]  <dann> lifeforce rocked!
[21:33:36]  <dann> what was the first game
[21:33:37]  <linc> Nice for  CIRCUS :-)
[21:34:12]  <Mellofone> it blew alright :)
[21:35:21]  <Paladin> Contra: Shattered Soldier for PS2 .... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LEM2/
[21:35:21]  <Rodzilla> Bionic Commando ...  WOOT
[21:35:27]  <Mellofone> playstation was like 10 years later :)
[21:35:55]  <Mellofone> ColecoVision!
[21:36:15]  <linc> Asteroids man
[21:36:40]  <Mellofone> THAT SONG RULES
[21:36:42]  <Paladin> http://www.solehi.k12.pa.us/
[21:38:23]  <Paladin> Validation results: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.solehi.k12.pa.us%2F
[21:39:21]  <Paladin> :)
[21:39:46]  <Mellofone> wow I am way behind with the stream
[21:39:48]  <Mellofone> WTF
[21:39:55]  <Mellofone> :)
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[21:42:48]  <Mellofone> CDs?
[21:42:58]  <Mellofone> install it to a network folder, then run the setup from there!
[21:43:00]  <Paladin> Heh, CDs... those are sooo 1998.
[21:43:03]  <Mellofone> hell with CDs
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[21:45:37]  <Mellofone> YEAH!
[21:45:40]  <Mellofone> Debian!!
[21:45:42]  <Mellofone> :)
[21:45:47]  <linc> ick
[21:45:58]  <Mellofone> you mock what you don't understand
[21:46:32]  <linc> hence your disdain for Slackware
[21:46:53]  <Paladin> Come on now, there's enough love for all the distros....
[21:47:06]  <Mellofone> I tried slackware once.
[21:47:08]  <Mellofone> Once.
[21:47:10]  <Paladin> (even for inferior ones like Slackware)
[21:47:10]  <Paladin> heh
[21:48:01]  <Patrick> Debian rulez
[21:48:42]  <Paladin> BTW, from the Debian About page... "Since many people have asked, Debian is pronounced 'deb ee n'. It comes from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra."
[21:48:54]  <Patrick> firewire cards are what $20
[21:50:04]  <Mellofone> get em at newegg for $12 :)
[21:50:15]  <Patrick> trying to get kino working
[21:50:56]  <dann> you do have the raw1394 device right?
[21:50:57]  <Patrick> Best Buy is evil!!! At least the one in Whitehall!!
[21:51:17]  <Mellofone> I like 30 seconds from that store :)
[21:51:22]  <Patrick> I dont miss living in Whitehall
[21:51:24]  <dann> and the proper permissions, corrct, unless you are running at root.
[21:52:00]  <Rodzilla> I got stuck in the back lot for an hour a few years ago before that exit was there ...
[21:52:07]  <Rodzilla> it was HORRIBLE
[21:53:07]  <Patrick> I'm getting: 'Drivers not loaded?'
[21:53:53]  <dann> the raw1394 driver not loaded message when you go into preferences?
[21:53:59]  <Patrick> I'm also getting 'IEEE 1394 subsystem not loaded' and 'all IEEE 1394 options are disabled'
[21:54:38]  <Mellofone> heh
[21:54:47]  <Paladin> Short show tonight.
[21:54:58]  <Patrick> I see the cameera and can control it via gscanbus
[21:55:17]  <Mellofone> how is allan going with the xbox?
[21:55:58]  <Allan> Not any better then the before. I've put it on hold until after the holidays.
[21:55:58]  <Paladin> Mello: So are you still using yours without ever running the update?
[21:56:11]  <Patrick> I compiled all 3 into my kernel
[21:56:23]  <Patrick> not as modules
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[21:56:55]  <Mellofone> yup
[21:56:58]  <Mellofone> no update for me :)
[21:57:15]  <Patrick> yes all 3, I read the docs
[21:57:44]  <Paladin> Just released Linux 2.6.0-test11 Kernel tonight.... you could try that. :)
[21:57:46]  <Patrick> chmod 755?
[21:58:06]  <Patrick> yes it is
[21:58:58]  <linc> !! more clues for contest !!
[21:59:18]  <Mellofone> ARGH 777!! :)
[21:59:20]  <Paladin> I assume you checked here? http://www.linux1394.org/faq.html
[21:59:54]  <Mellofone> 755 will work
[22:00:27]  <Paladin> MORE CLUES!!!!
[22:00:45]  <Paladin> Heh, thanks!
[22:02:17]  <Paladin> Gimp 1.2.5 is latest stable.
[22:02:31]  <Paladin> Gimp 1.3.23 is latest developers version.
[22:02:55]  <Mellofone> and it owns
[22:03:14]  <Paladin> Well, "own" might be a strong word for Gimp.
[22:03:19]  <Paladin> I mean, it's good and all.... but.
[22:03:35]  <Patrick> kino is hangin now
[22:03:37]  <Mellofone> don't start with the photoshop BS :)
[22:03:48]  <Paladin> Happy Thanksgiving guys!!!!
[22:03:53]  <Paladin> thanks for doing the show.
[22:03:54]  <Patrick> same to all
[22:04:01]  <Mellofone> thanks for the show. catch you next week.
[22:04:09]  <Mellofone> even if you do like Slackware :)
[22:04:21]  <Allan> Happy Thanksgiving everyone
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[22:06:08]  <Mellofone> later on
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