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Users on #techshow: @tgvf5 Mellofone
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<Paladin>
w00t
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<Paladin>
:)
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<Mellofone>
Hello Paladin
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<Mellofone>
how are you?
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<Paladin>
Ok. And you?
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<Mellofone>
pretty good.
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<Mellofone>
waiting for the show!
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<Paladin>
Me too!
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<dann>
good evening everyone
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<Mellofone>
hey dann
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<dann>
3 people already, wow!
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<dann>
If Linc would stop screwing around with his blog he'd be on too.
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<dann>
that would make 5
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<dann>
see I can count
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Users on #techshow: dann Paladin @tgvf5 Mellofone
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<Paladin>
Yeah, so I guess the show starts at 9PM, not 8PM.
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Mellofone>
apparently so :)
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<Paladin>
More than a little early tonight. :)
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* Paladin
slaps himself.
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<Paladin>
Mello: I dunno... too much going on to just figure it out tongiht.
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Mellofone>
it's easy :)
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<Paladin>
I'm a GUI sort of person. I'll admit it.
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<Mellofone>
AHHHHHHH!
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<Paladin>
But it still earned a `make install` from me. Will be handy when I'm remote.
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<Mellofone>
:)
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<Mellofone>
Paladin: it just takes time :)
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<Paladin>
Big crowds tonight.
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<linc>
wohoo!
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<linc>
here we go boya and girls...
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<linc>
boys :-)
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Paladin>
Thank goodness, that previous music almost killed me.
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<Mellofone>
:)
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<linc>
Dann did it :-) hahahahaha
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<Mellofone>
heheh
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<linc>
but it didn't crash - yet :-)
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<dann>
ooops
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<Mellofone>
Gentoo! :P
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<Paladin>
Gentoo!
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<Paladin>
Debian!
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<moondog>
Hello All
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<moondog>
Debian rules:)
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<Paladin>
Yeah it does.
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Mellofone>
Lindows.
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<Mellofone>
hahaah
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<Mellofone>
and now he wants to go after BSD
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<Mellofone>
what a tool
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<Paladin>
Darl McBride: "There are only two industries who use the term 'users,' computers and drugs. Not sure if there's a connection there. But the point is, we're not suing our customers. We are going after end users of Linux and I think there's a slight but significant difference there."
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<Mellofone>
what a tool
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<Paladin>
Formula 1 article: http://www.newsforge.com/hardware/03/11/14/1613211.shtml
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<moondog>
When are the meetings for BCLUG
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<Paladin>
All meetings are the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays of each month from 6pm - ~8pm. The next meeting is November 24th.
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<Mellofone>
I should go to a meeting...
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<Mellofone>
damnit if I'm not too lazy :)
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<Paladin>
I'm a little too far away. :)
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<moondog>
I work at night and I cant make the meetings. Any Saturdays:)
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<Mellofone>
moondog: which debian do you run? stable/testing/unstable?
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<moondog>
Stable for everyday and testing for fun:)
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<moondog>
Havent ventures unstable yet
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<Paladin>
I ran unstable in the past, and never had a single problem. But had access to all the sexiest packages.
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<Mellofone>
I run stable on all servers except the server at home which runs testing
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<Paladin>
Yeah, I switched back to stable on my box at home. I don't do anything fancy with it, so I figured it is good enough.
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<Mellofone>
desktops are all gentoo :)
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<moondog>
I run stable for Desktop also. Laptop.
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<Mellofone>
YEH!
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<Mellofone>
A Pub! :)
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<Paladin>
CP-LUG (mine) has done that.
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<Paladin>
I didn't go though.
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<moondog>
They say Free as in BEER!
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<Mellofone>
eheheheh
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<moondog>
What happen to the cluster project that was talked about in one of the last meetings I attended. Whch was last year:(
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<linc>
nothing happened with it :-)
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<moondog>
Ohh...
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<moondog>
:)
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<Paladin>
Clusters take a lot of equipment, for not a lot of benefit. It sounds cool... but...
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<moondog>
was it that long
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<Paladin>
Run SETI@home or something I guess.
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<Mellofone>
hehehheh
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<Mellofone>
dnetc!
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<moondog>
break already
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<Paladin>
Please.... not more evil music!
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<Paladin>
:)
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<Mellofone>
I'll reconnect in a second :P
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<Paladin>
Moondog: Which window manager are you running on your desktop/laptop?
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<moondog>
ICEWM
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<moondog>
Which Manager are you using
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<Paladin>
Ah, cool. I was running that when I ran X in debian as well.
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<linc>
XFCE!
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<Paladin>
I dont even have X installed currently.
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<Mellofone>
flux flux flux flux
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<Paladin>
Mello: You speak the truth. Fluxbox rules.
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<linc>
xfce and rox filer
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<dann>
windowmaker windowmaker windowmaker
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Paladin>
And then I ran Gentoo/KDE on my desktop for a while
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<Mellofone>
filer?!
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<moondog>
I havent tried XFCE
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<Mellofone>
try aterm :P
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<linc>
youre missing out
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<Paladin>
That tune wasn't too bad.
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<moondog>
I just read a nice write up about XFCE on Linux.com????
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<moondog>
I still think Allen ROCKS wiht the weather added to his BLOG
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<dann>
you know it, that is a slick little feature there.
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<moondog>
Its like the political advertisements during elections
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<Mellofone>
I have a blog :)
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<moondog>
URL
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<Mellofone>
http://www.oddprocess.org
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<Mellofone>
ewwwwww Slackware :)
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<Paladin>
Slackware is for people with nothing to write about on their blogs. :)
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<Paladin>
Gentoo is excitement! Adventure!
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<dann>
and what more could you ask for?
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<dann>
Hey, be nice to us slackers, or we will take our toys and go home.
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Paladin>
Just kidding around. :)
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<moondog>
Mello what did you do with the seats from the Vet?
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<Mellofone>
haven't had the time to clean them up yet :)
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<Paladin>
http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/
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<moondog>
Nice to see the site powered by debian :)
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<Mellofone>
hand coded :)
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<Mellofone>
ipx or ip?
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<Mellofone>
just wondered.
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<Mellofone>
YEAH
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<Mellofone>
ditch it :)
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<Mellofone>
frontpage time :)
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<Mellofone>
heeheeheh
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<Mellofone>
it works with Apache!
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<Mellofone>
Lindows is working on a FrontPage clone
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<Mellofone>
looks pretty nice
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<moondog>
apache and frontpage :(
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<Mellofone>
works well for us!
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<Mellofone>
I hate it, but it's shit simple for users
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<moondog>
PHP???
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<Mellofone>
for users man, users :)
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<moondog>
We Have it on some of our sites
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<Mellofone>
none of my users even know what PHP is :)
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<Mellofone>
heheehehe
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<Mellofone>
we got that too :)
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<Mellofone>
MS Money sucks :)
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<Mellofone>
because no one else is buying it, they need to get it out of their warehouse :)
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<moondog>
GNUcash
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<Mellofone>
gnucash owns.
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<dann>
yes I love gnucash
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<moondog>
Does Slackware use dpkg for install of programs??
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<dann>
nope, slackware uses it's own package
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<Mellofone>
there will be :)
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<Paladin>
Does slackware's packager do dependency checking?
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<moondog>
Like ports
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<Mellofone>
or portage :)
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<Paladin>
Heheh
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<Paladin>
"That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
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<Mellofone>
heheeeh
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<moondog>
Amen
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<Paladin>
RPM is a package format not a real "packaging system"
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<linc>
netbsd ports :-)
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<Mellofone>
and it's fugly :)
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<moondog>
FreeBSD
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<Paladin>
Like .deb is the package, and apt-get is the nice interface
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<Paladin>
and RPM is ugly as sin. :)
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<Mellofone>
sounds like a distro war :)
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<Paladin>
Sound like it! hehe
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<Mellofone>
gentoo!!!
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<Mellofone>
:)
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<moondog>
APT-GET !!!
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<Mellofone>
come on
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<moondog>
Wait tll december
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<Mellofone>
that isn't that bad
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<moondog>
Sarge will rule
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<moondog>
USe anaconda
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<Mellofone>
feh!
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<Mellofone>
it's a snap anymore.
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<Mellofone>
12 options and BAM it's installed
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<Paladin>
It's easy as can be! Boot off a floppy... folllow the text.
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<Mellofone>
I got that!
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<Paladin>
Me too
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<dann>
yeah but this is linc.
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<Mellofone>
hahaaahaaha
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<moondog>
HAHAHA
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<linc>
byte me
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<linc>
:-)
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<moondog>
Debian on Sparc:)
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<Mellofone>
woody is stable
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<Mellofone>
aptitude?
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<Mellofone>
tasksel?
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<moondog>
Tasksel
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<Mellofone>
that sucks
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<Mellofone>
you don't need that
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<moondog>
HHAHAA
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<Paladin>
Yeah, run neither. Get a base system. And then apt-get what you want.
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<Mellofone>
righto
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<moondog>
The tweaks
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<Mellofone>
RTFM :P
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<Paladin>
Heh
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<moondog>
HAHA
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<moondog>
You didnt select it
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<Mellofone>
that's you though :)
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<Mellofone>
oooo
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<Mellofone>
I am so biting my tongue :)
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<moondog>
AWWWW CMON
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<linc>
Fighten words :-)
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<Mellofone>
here it comes
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<moondog>
Its not for the weak at heart
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<Paladin>
Heh
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<dann>
hit him, hit him! Come hit him, gie it to linc
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<moondog>
jsut kidding
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<Paladin>
Heheh Lindows
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<Mellofone>
buy something above 700hmz and your install won't take so long :)
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<Mellofone>
700MHz
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<moondog>
I bought the PC from walmart with Lindows
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<Paladin>
Can't we all just get along? Feel the distro love.
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<dann>
how is it running?
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<moondog>
One Love ...Linux
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<dann>
that walmart pc?
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<moondog>
I istalled Debian:)
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<moondog>
I then installed XP for my father in-law
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<dann>
why
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<moondog>
He didnt want Linux...Yoiu know my pain
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<Mellofone>
feh
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<dann>
I hear you, been down that road too many times.
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<Mellofone>
and I don't mean the command
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<Paladin>
Tonight on TLLTS: DISTRO SMACKDOWN!
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<Mellofone>
heheheehe
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<moondog>
If you smell what the LVLUG is cooking!!!
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<moondog>
I will write the debian users mailing list:)
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<Mellofone>
ehehehe
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<Mellofone>
and they are brutal :)
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<Mellofone>
what do you want to know about debian
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<Mellofone>
heheeheheh
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<Mellofone>
bastards!
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<Paladin>
Heheh
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<Mellofone>
:)
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<Paladin>
THIRD CLUE!
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<Mellofone>
and that comment was for gentoo, not debian :)
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<linc>
3766
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<Mellofone>
I don't want to win if this computer has slackware installed :P
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<moondog>
HAHAHA
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<Paladin>
Good show guys.
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<Mellofone>
guest host!
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<Paladin>
Thanks for doing it.
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<moondog>
Excellent show.
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<Mellofone>
heh
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<Mellofone>
I didn't say that :)
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<moondog>
We need a Debian user on the show
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<Mellofone>
or gentoo :)
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<Paladin>
Not bad for a bunch of Slack users....
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<Paladin>
(heh)
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<Mellofone>
lol
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<Mellofone>
thanks for the show
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<Mellofone>
great job
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<Paladin>
yeah, thanks guys
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<moondog>
Thanks Guys
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<linc>
thanks for listening guyg!
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<moondog>
have a Great Thanksgiving
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<Allan>
bye all thanks for listening
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<linc>
yoo too!
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<moondog>
Good Night All
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<linc>
cya
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<Paladin>
night
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<Mellofone>
later